Craig's List item. Before and after.
Yeah, the radio chassis had a few issues, but, so did the cabinet.

Fortunately, in the process of replacing the front veneer with a single sheet of Mahogany, the seller did not get the damaged front panel firmly glued to the arch. Unfortunately, the original trim was lost.

Since the back side of the panel was also damaged, I found it was easier to just make a new panel. The picture above shows the original front after it was reglued and cleaned up. At one point I was going to re-veneer but other damage caused me to reconsider. Much of the grill area had been "patched" with a filler similar to Bondo or some sort of wood filler.

The geometry of the arch trim is a somewhat more  difficult than most people would think. Not impossible, but, just try to calculate the inner curve (at a tangent to the outer curve).

The rest was router work and adding the Zebrawood veneer.

IF the most important consideration regarding the restoration of a chassis is the amount of rust, then this one was not so bad. Unfortunately the power transformer had been replaced and was missing it's cover. Another interesting deficiency was discovered in the tuning cap. There was just enough oxidized metal deposited on the insulators to cause the volume control circuit not to work.

This volume control is much better than a simple rheostat placed on the antenna input but also more complicated. If you get a chance, it can be seen here:

http://www.nostalgiaair.org/Resources/480/M0001480.htm

Aah, Spring, fresh flowers and old radios!

P.S. No, I didn't pay $100 for it.

Russ

Or Masterpieces - which seems a bit contradictory.

In the 1920s and 1930's there were several radios that went by the name "Masterpiece". The term would seem to indicate the best of the best at least as much a one individual or manufacture was concerned. There was the exceedingly common Freshman "Masterpiece" which was rather average as far as 1920s TRF radios go. It was a good radio, but that was about it. A better name would have been, Freshman Average Radio. Then there was the Parker McCrory Masterpiece 733 From 1937  (See: https://www.russoldradios.com/unique-radios.html  3rd entry) which was a really nice 30's battery radio. It was way above average, but a "masterpiece"? Well maybe. And then there was McMurdo Silver, a guy that intended every one of his radios to be a masterpiece. By the time he got to his 5th version, the Masterpiece V, I would say the name fit very well.

I was doing the chassis restoration on a Zenith Stratosphere for a friend and fellow radio accumulator when he mentioned having several (about 7) McMurdo Silver Masterpieces. For the most part, they had been awaiting restoration since 2015. The project had been started, a lot of the parts had been rechromed, but the chassis restoration was unfinished. One thing led to another and before I knew it I was up to my elbows in Master-pieces.

Most radio collectors do not own a Masterpiece. I would guess that  significant percentage have never seen one,   face-to-dialface.. Even more elusive are the 18-inch "Super Giant" pedestal speakers since many of them were removed along with the separate amplifier and sent off to be use for other purposes.

Having entered into this project at the end, I never got to see the original cabinets. For that matter and as you can see, UPS just started delivering parts and pieces. And, at that, many of the speakers/chassis had been partially disassembled. It was a GRAND jigsaw puzzle.

In the photo above note the chromed pedestal on the V and VI Super Giants. They were not built that way and had been chromed along with a lot of the other parts as a matter of taste. Two were to be kept and two more were to be sold along with the matching radios. The V is on top with two VIs below.

Underside of the main (radio) chassis of a MSMVI.
There seems to have been a lot of changes around the addition of a "MIC" circuit along with the "Phono" input for the VI. (left side of chassis)

Above is the power supply/amp for a MSMV. Note the 6 tubes - 2 each 5Z3, 6J5 and 6L6s. That combination gets really HOT. Keep the power cables away from the tubes. As a note for future restorers, the MSMV amp/speaker incorporates 2 field coils in addition to the 2 chokes seen above. FC 1 has a DC resistance around 400 ohms and FC2 around 4K ohms. FC 1 is inline with the B+ to the radio and FC2 is shunted to ground. You get about 350V  to power the main chassis.

The MSMVI PS/amp above has a 25hz power transformer which is much larger than a standard 60hz unit.

The MSMVI power supply/amp only has 4 tubes 2 each 5U4s and 6L6s. The supply is very similar to the V less the 2 6J5s, but the DC resistance of the field coils is considerably higher than the V with FC1 at around 700 ohms and FC2 around 8K ohms. So the speakers are not interchangeable.

Another interesting thing to note at this point is that the tubes on a MSMV are all metal by Raytheon with the exception of the two 5Z3s. On the MSMVI all of the tubes are glass except the two 6L6s which may have also been glass on some units (ST bulb). At the time of manufacture the only difference between the 5Z3 and 5U4G was the base.

MSMVI topside with coil covers (shields) removed.

There are 3 more tubes on the MSMVI receiver chassis but 2 less on the PS/amp chassis for a gain of 1 over the MSMV.

OK, OK, the only color is green.

Sold in 1948, this was one of the first budget TVs. This brings back memories of long lines of people waiting for the "Black Friday" sale at Circuit City when flat screens first became the "hot" Christmas gift. These were no less popular.

The $99 price was the best part of this TV. The real drawback was the 3" screen. Continuous variable tuning on  2 bands was a cost saver, but I find tuning to be easy, maybe easier than the click , click/fine tune two step of a conventional TV tuner.

The picture tubes were not green phosphor as sold. The original CRT must have failed and prior to my restoration somebody installed a oscilloscope tube. An original replacement is very hard to find today. The green doesn't make watching a 3" tube any better.

TV are not something I have not put much effort into, but I always wanted a small "roundie" TV for the museum.

It is hard to take a movie of a changing/reflective surface, but I tried: The input is from a HD to channel 3 (NTSC) analog converter - Below

     I have often encountered some resistance while discussing chassis restoration. In particular the aspect of "restuffing" the original paper capacitors seems to be a step too far for some people.

"I don't feel the need to do that". Well, that is OK, don't. And this one - "No one ever looks under the chassis". To that I say it is both untrue and somewhat ridiculous, since there is much more involved. I find this of particular interest in today's environment of "MAGA" which implies that we need higher quality and workmanship - like the "good old days".

This attitude is often associated with shoddy workmanship. If the builder of your home uses less concrete in the foundation because "no one will ever see it", Let's hope the building inspector catches him. This is why antique radio buyers WANT to see the underside of the restored chassis, unless the radio is very cheap.

But don't focus too much on restuffing caps, there is a lot more to "restoration" than just the caps. Let's look at a radio I am working on right now. It is an AK (Atwater Kent) 944 from 1934/35.

This radio was working when I acquired it in a large lot last month. The cabinet had been "antiqued". The heavy paint covered up missing and split veneers and holes filled with putty - it was a total loss. So, this fellow did some less-than-perfect cabinet work. Good thing I had another cabinet!

Lets move on to the chassis. It is clear that he did have some electronic experience. He either needed to replace the original volume control or had problems with audio level not uncommon to this set. So he installed a ganged pot that also controlled bias to the audio output tube. IMO not the correct thing to do but still proving this was not his first radio.

Above: A finished AK 447 chassis showing all of the aspects of restoration including but not limited to caps, resistors, wire and MOSTLY, proper soldering technique.



Can I tell you a short story? Well - - Around 1992 the "cellular revolution" was in full bloom. I was a tech working for GTE (later US West, later, Airtouch, later Vodafone, later - - you get the idea). Cell phones were not cheap, especially if you had to replace one without the "bundled" contract. They were so expensive that my employer(s) feared the loss of customers that would disconnect rather than buy a new phone. It became my job to insure that this did not happen - but there was a problem. The compact design (surface mounted devices) while not new, was going to new heights with the new compact handsets. The manufactures quickly found that phones exposed to existing repair techniques were being destroyed.

The result was that almost all warranty repairs (3 year warranty) were required to be sent back to the factory. The real problem for my employer was the need to keep hundreds, maybe thousands of loaner phones since the repair process could take weeks or longer. I needed to resolve this issue.

Contacting the individual manufactures was mostly like banging your head on the wall. I approached the FTR for OKI, a nice guy that really knew what he was doing. He told me what I had suspected. It all came down to field technicians NOT KNOWING HOW TO SOLDER. OKI set up a training course for about 5 people. I found out that I did not know everything. I also found out that I did not have the proper tools. OH - ALSO there was a test.

To make a long story shorter, my employer invested thousands of $$ in all of the proper stuff - 5 element de-soldering stations with suction, static safe workstations, and a lot of parts. We became one of the first authorized field repair centers and I got a plaque for the wall. Within a few months the other manufactures fell inline. One of my most satisfying moments was when my former boss, the owner of a MSS had to bring his phone to me for repair - he was the guy that said "There is no future in consumer electronics".  Also - he is out of business now.

Above: AK 944

Back to the AK 944 chassis. Above is the top side. Looks ok, if you don't look too hard. In the lower rt. is the new volume control. Since it needed more depth than the original it had been spaced out by a block of wood - yeah it caused the control to impact the cabinet but it worked - sort of.

Let's take a look at that plastic insulated wire. Do you think it is rated for 600V? Maybe it is rated for 50V or not at all. The one thing for sure is that it is a mess (and the wrong color) (And if you new guys don't think this is important, tell me where the "black" wire specified on the schematic is supposed to go.) Yeah he only had 3 or 4 colors and was not too particular as to which he used. Can you see the solder joints?

Above; As found.

The thing I find most striking is the congestion and clutter caused by this repair technique. Let me say at this point that what you see here is above average work.

So what else can we see. Novel - the mounting of a "new" filter can - which is more than 30 years old. I'll bet it was "NOS" when he chose to use it. DO NOT use old filter caps. They generally do not age well. Anyway he pushed it up through the bottom. I think this is the first time I have seen this and while certainly creative it is not "restoration".

Glob and blob solder technique. The real trick is to get the joint HOT - FAST. Get a nice shiny joint without overheating the other components. My iron is at 800 deg.F. before I start, pig tails are cut or straitened - yeah, solder is weak. You can pull the wire out of a solder joint which is why wires/leads need to be wrapped around connections. If you have to screw with the wire/components as you make the joint you are going to burn stuff up.

Melted insulation on "new" wire. Probably going to work but it sure looks bad. Taken to an extreme, it will result in shorts. This plastic insulator melts easily. It leaves ugly burnt marks even at good joints. I have found that the new EPDM insulated wire not only looks right but the insulation is nearly impossible to scorch let alone melt.

Some of the old rubber insulated wire was just too tough to get to or replacement was deemed unnecessary.  Give that blue lead on the resistor a few more years, it will be a bare wire. HOPE it does not short. When you are doing a rewire job like this, replace all of the original wire.

Extra connectors, while convenient they detract from a proper restoration. If you NEED an MP3 port, add the jack in such a way that it can be removed. Future owners will thank you.

Modern parts - detract from the "restored appearance of the chassis. Capacitors can be restuffed, if not, save the old ones for a future owner. I still need to locate the original AK caps for this unit. This is often the biggest challenge I have in doing a restoration. I also rewind or otherwise repair transformers and coils, and cast new resistors so they look like the originals.

Above: Showing the lands/connections on an AK power transformer. ALL 1930s AK power transformers need to have the leads replaced. The original rubber insulated leads will short and cause an expensive failure. DO NOT trust the original wire.

Other AK coils are no different from the power transformers. Above is the IF transformer. At least the original tech chose to replace the wire. Unfortunately he chose to cut/splice and then wrap his connections in vinyl tape. I would have given him more slack if he had at least used heat shrink. I will again point out the wire and single color - not a restoration. You know why vinyl tape is not up to code for most electrical work? If you have to use tape, learn how to use the old friction tape - It can last for decades - or better yet do not use tape OR splices. These transformers also have lands (experience is worth something). See below.

Above: Wire/connections properly installed on the IF transformer. (no tape)

Below: A comparison of the chassis before and after. I still have to locate the original paper caps and I will restuff them, but if you choose not to, this is how your chassis should look. Note that one of his new caps had failed and one was the wrong value. Those two are yellow - for the moment.

See the new resistors? These, small AK resistors are too small for my ceramic tubes. On larger values I reuse the original lead ends. With these the whole resistor is recast and painted. Maybe one day I will start making new metal ends. (Construction is end - tube - end with a new resistor in the tube. All new resistors are at least twice the original rating but more often 4 to 12 times the ratings. For example a 1/4 watt resistor actually has a 2 watt resistor inside.

OK, you don't have to tell me that this is over the top. I have also heard from "professionals" (NEVER trust your radio to someone who is not licensed AND bonded). Several have stated that they would "tell a customer where to go" if he asks for this kind of work. Well, I can save them the effort. If your "tech" does not want to restore a radio to your specifications - I'll tell you where to go -  - Someplace else.

I have also heard people say "People want unrestored radios and pay more for them". Yes, I want unrestored radios. There is a lot of extra work involved with fixing a radio like this one. And, a more correct statement is that people don't want improperly restored radios - true that some people don't want to pay for the additional time it takes. BUT, even if a tech does not restuff caps or cast resistors the result should still be like the first picture above, not like the second. Many techs will find, as I did,  that properly restored radios sell for a premium. If you are purchasing any radio ask to see the underside of the chassis. Restorers might already have a picture. If it is too "inconvenient" for the seller, assume the worst, don't pay much.

Some people say this takes too long. I can assure you that the first one or two WILL take too long. Is it better to have three radios restored poorly or one good one. I am not going to decide for you. I think that the real annoyance comes from owners that have paid for more and they got less or collectors that have a bunch of "repaired" but not restored radios. Sorry, I know how it feels. I have reworked many of the radios I repaired 20 years ago. Yes my skills have improved and I have found sources for better and or original (looking) parts. I have refinished one cabinet 3 times ;-)


So make your next radio the best it can be. And if you are new to the hobby - well, now you know.

So, while you might not look under a chassis, I am always going to do so.

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The box said "AL's radio". Inside was a 3-tube Acme radio with other accessories from the early 1920's. It had been preserved so well. It must have been important to Al. Now, nearly 100 years after it was made, his nephew was allowing me to take responsibility for it's future. I will do my best.

This receiver was manufactured by Acme Apparatus Co., Cambridge MA.

As-found above

This 3 tube receiver is comprised of a UV200 detector and two stages of audio amplification. The audio stages incorporate 4 ohm rheostats controlling the filaments. These low resistance rheostats point to the original use of 1 amp UV 201s in the audio stages that would be consistent with a radio made in 1921 - early 1922. So all three tubes would have been the early brass-based/tipped 1 amp versions.

It is really tough to tell, but the original finish is either so good or possibly has been neatly top-coated at some time. In any case. the very slight cracking of the original shellac is visible if you look VERY closely.

Not only is there a storage space for B batteries, but also an internal horn speaker.

In the picture above you can see the splices that were made when the right  Acme interstage transformer was replaced with a slightly later model. The secondary on this trans. was found to be open and was the only repair that needed to be made to make the radio work again.

While there would be some historical perspective maintained by leaving the spliced buss wires, I just could not do that. So the completed repair is pictured below.

There appear to be other post-production modifications done to this radio besides the audio trans. repair. Most apparent is the piece of plywood added to the front of the battery storage area. This modification appears to be nearly as old as the radio. The construction of the plywood is period correct and it was stained to match the finish. This mod incorporated a change to the method of B battery attachment. This change made changing batteries much easier. It also allows for the use of both B+ and detector (22.5V) connections.

There is some speculation that a variable cap prior to the detector was replaced with a variometer. While this change might have reduced selectivity it probably improved antenna performance. In 1922 the ability to tune to the antenna is more significant than selectivity since all radio stations were on only ONE or two frequencies. The history of frequency assignment is discussed in the article referenced below.

With or without the variometer there is no signal gain prior to the UV 200 detector. So the "range" of this receiver is very limited. The UV 200 was a good choice at the time but the radio has insufficient control to really take advantage of it. The filament control is very rough and, in the best case, some method of of controlling the detector B+ would have been necessary.

It is possible that all of the repairs and modifications to this radio were made at the same time. While all of the work appears to be professionally done it also appears to be well planned and the person performing the repair must have been experienced with these modifications.

In my years as a radio tech I participated in several large manufacture's sponsored recalls with required modifications. After a few dozen repairs a tech would get very good at it. In my opinion, repairs to this unit might have been a part of a rebuild/reissue effort.

 I believe that all of the modifications were improvements. Looking at the front panel behind the tuning knob, the panel is neatly and accurately drilled for both a tuning cap (3 holes) and for the variometer (2 holes). All of the holes arel countersunk and clean. This is almost never the case in field modifications.

Consider the possibility that this radio was a warranty repair/return. While very few of these exist there are notes online that seem to indicate that another unit had many similar modifications. A couple of the  early UV type tubes have Pacific States Electric tags. This company was a reseller of considerable size. Is it possible that they acquired returned and unsold units and modified them?

Below is an explanation for the relatively unselective design of the Acmefone.  This is an excerpt from a remarkably complete history of broadcasting compiled by my friend Ron Kramer.

The complete document was part of an effort to build The Western States Museum of Broadcasting, a project that is on hold, for the moment. It is available as an archived document here:

https://web.archive.org/web/20150404142651/http://www.wsmb.org/Page.asp?NavID=19

If you get a chance , I would recommend reading the entire history. While much of it is specific to  S. Oregon, I am sure that the story was replicated in many large and small communities in the early 1920's

Thanks again to Ron for making this piece of radio history available to us.

Below are video demonstrations of the Acmefone in operation. There is a considerable improvement in audio using the RCA cone speaker over the onboard horn. Also, the horn driver might have been replace along with the other repairs.

The Acmefone is now available for viewing by appointment at Russ' Old Radio shop/museum.

I've been promising to post pictures from last summer's "radio pile".  Since I have already moved on to this winter's radio pile, I suppose that I should get this done.

This was a collection that was donated. It was comprised of complete radios, projects and parts chassis. I was able to preserve and restore many of the table radios including a collection of Zenith TOs not pictured here, The parts chassis were mostly scavenged for usable parts to take up less space and make accessing the spare parts easier. Some of the AA5 and other 1940s radios were sold to the public as those are outside of the scope of the collection/display. Many of the console project radios were donated to Skip, a friend, and guy with more storage space. Very little was thrown away and I consider that a success.

The radios pictured below were electrically restored by finding and replacing most of the original parts, most significantly finding and restuffing the original capacitors that had been lost. Most of the cabinets needed to be refinished.

Other radios from this collection have been discussed in greater detail in earlier posts, below.

I want to again thank contributors in helping me make these radios available to view and study by me and other radio enthusiasts.

The Motorola Stereo (3 channel) was working and the cabinet was in exceptional condition. The audio amp uses six 6V6gts in push pull configuration with the 3rd channel driving a bass speaker in the center. VERY nice. It is now at home in the office.

In the previous post the substitute UV 199 tubes are demonstrated in an early 1920s TRF radio. Now I wanted to test the UX 199/UX 120 versions along with another application for the UX 201A version.

I realized that there aren't many - any, small radios using the later UX tube versions in the museum display. There are a couple in storage, not easy to get to. There is the Thompson Minuet, I really did not want to pull it off of the shelf and risk damaging the speaker cone that Buford Chidester made for it. And then there is this really big  Remler super. Well at least the top cover was already removed for display.

The Remler is a cool radio!

I had purchased it about 5 years ago along with about a dozen other radios at an auction near Portland. It always seems that radios come in bunches and I am always in a hurry to clean them up. I do test them, but, generally move on to the next one after as quickly as possible.

Now I had a little time to explore and the first thing I needed to do was verify that the unit was functioning normally. It Wasn't. The second RF section in the TRF wasn't contributing at all.

It did not take long to find the problem which was a relief since there are a lot of moving parts and the potential for broken wires, but that was not it,

The second section of the tuning cap was shorted. This was not from broken parts but because of a wiring issue. The 3 sections of the ganged cap are isolated from each other until that little wire, seen near the bottom of the picture above is installed. On most tuning cap assemblies the moving plates (rotor) are all grounded to the shaft that moves them leaving the stationary plates (stator) to be connected in the grid circuit. On this assembly Remler had wanted to stagger the grounded plates - in other words the moving plates (rotors) in the center section were grounded. This must have confused somebody WHO grounded the stator as well as the rotor. I could tell from the obviously factory connections on the trimmer what the design configuration was.

The fix resulted in better gain from the TRF section.

I suppose that at This point I should explain that unlike any other early super that I have seen, This radio will operate as a superheterodyne OR as a TRF. And that is one of the reasons that I think it is so cool. With a "normal" super from this time you would tune and tune listening for a squeal and then tweak the IF and oscillator until you had a station. OR you would just have some noise - start over. On this radio you can turn up the TRF filament rheostat and get the same functionality as a 5 tube TRF, which is what it is in that setting. When a station is found turn down the TRF (you don't need that much input to the IF section) and adjust the super for the best audio. It really is much easier.

If you want to understand the other cool functions, like the IF that uses the sum of the freq. and local osc. there are a few good sites. Start at this one:

http://www.duanesradios.info/html/infradyne_superheterodyne.html

Now on to the tube substitution.

Below is a demonstration of the Infradyne:

Below, the 01A (201A) substitute is used in the 1st audio socket.

In the video below the 01A sub is used in the 2nd detector position with the superheterodyne section running.

During the testing process I decided to inspect the IF assembly. Below is the IF, removed and flipped over. IMO these non-potted IF transformers are so much easier to deal with than other manufactures units.

I decided to just go-for-it and replace all 3 of the UX 199s in the IF section. I believed that this was probably not going to work - but it did.  The higher gain of the substitute tubes along with other differences required retuning the IF.

Using the tree tubes there is a savings of 1/3A in the filament supply.

As one last note, I never did show or sub the UX 199 used as the oscillator since it is stuffed in behind the meter so close that it is almost impossible to get out.

I used a 3S4 just to see if it would work, it does, but the 3V4 is probably better. In the case of the 3S4 the jumper between the plate and screen could be replaced by a resistor to reduce the screen voltage which is not required in the 3V4.

Well, this concludes this project, at least for now. I have another chrome plated monster to work on.

Russ

P.S. Don't miss Part I below.

OR is there - -

I just looked up 201/01A postings on E-Pay. It looks like prices are up since the low around 4 years ago. Then it was not uncommon to be able to buy these for $10 - $15. Looks like it is $20 - $25 now. One thing you can be sure of - they aren't making new ones.

There is plenty of history on the 201 online so some research should be done, if you are interested.

I have more than enough UX201s to last a long time, especially considering that the plastic base, long pin tube was really only original equipment for about a year with the previous versions running back to about 1920. And since I try to put the original brand/type of tube in my restorations - well, that is why I have plenty.

But, many people only care about the radio working - and being cheap (me too).

I have thought about this for a while and it is a sure thing that I am not the first. Here is how it goes - build a replacement for the UX201/01A for less than $2.50.

You are gonna' need a 4 pin base like off of an 80. Depending on your radio, this base may or may not need to have the side pin for the Bayonet/UV base - depends on how old your radio is. Then, a standard 7-pin miniature socket. These should both be available from your junk drawer.

Then look in your tube stash for a 6C4. I picked this tube for it's characteristics - basically it is 1/2 of a 12AU7.  It is called a power triode by RCA. If you don't have one, E-Pay has some for about $1, some NOS. I just bought 15, about half of them NOS for an average of $1.10 - Sorry, there will be more.

Then 4 wires and a jumper will connect the 2 sockets/plugs. Connect the 7 pin socket, pins 3 and 4 to the big pins, pin 6 goes to the small pin on the right (Pins up, big pins closest to you) and the plate to the remaining small pin. Then place a jumper between pin 3 (fil) and pin 7 on the 7 pin socket. This is the cathode connection.

To test as a 201 use the same settings as an 01A but you will need to lower the bias from about 48 to near 0.

In testing this tube works great as an audio amp including a 112 . I tested it in my AK 20 in all positions with setting as they were for the 201s and it worked great as a detector and audio amp improving tone and level some and about the same as the 201 in the RF amp sockets.

BUT, BUT it is a 6V tube. Yeah, it doesn't matter. It takes about 10 seconds to warm up. BUT, BUT, BUT the cathode will be damaged - well if it goes to "sleep", just run it at 6V in your tube tester for a while. In reality these tubes were often run at low filament voltages to keep noise down in audio circuits and as a way to get bias for finals - look up some of the Fisher amps using the 12AU7 and 12AX7. It will be fine.

Also it only draws .15A of filament current. This will make your power supply/battery happy.

So a UX 201/01A sub is cool but what makes me nervous is testing with UV-199s and other more expensive/temperamental tubes.

I say temperamental since it seams that a UV or UX-199 can go to sleep just setting in it's box. Sure they can be rejuvenated, at the risk of destroying them. During the restoration process it sure would be nice to have a sub that doesn't cost $50 and up (metal base UV), then put in the correct tubes for display.

Again, looking in the inventory under cheap and plentiful I find the 3V4 miniature 7 pin tube. I have 12 of them. This tube is a pentode but don't let that bother you. The filament is a center tapped common cathode with the tap already jumpered to the suppressor grid. So one more jumper between the plate and screen and you have a triode.

https://www.radiomuseum.org/tubes/tube_3v4.html

The filament is 2.8V but running it at 3V should be no problem. The current draw is .05A. This is just perfect to replace both the UV and UX 199. COST?? - About $5 on Pay-Bay.

Go back to your parts box - assuming it is not still dumped out on the floor - and find another 7-pin mini base. Now, the UX-199 base is a little harder to find than the one for a UX-201. It has the same pin spacing and sizes but is over-all smaller in diameter. Good/bad news is that there are a lot of bad ones around. The UV-199 is harder to come by, even bad ones. Your are going to have to search for "display tubes" which should be priced at $1 or $2.

OK! this is as good a place as any to post:
THE PIN OUT ON A UV199 IS NOT THE SAME AS A UX199!!!!
Anybody trying to test one without knowing this will be fine until they hook up a UV199 and push the "TEST" button - and - BOOM goes the filament, since you just put plate voltage on it.

Examine the pin-out, courtesy of RM:

https://www.radiomuseum.org/tubes/tube_3v4.html

On your tube tester, use an ADAPTOR for the UV based tube. Both should give you about 1500 GM on the settings for a 199 (or a 99 on most Hickok tube testers).

OK, OK, just one more - for now.

How about the UX-120. This is the "power" triode output on many radios that use the 199s. The adaptor above is going to work in that socket but the B+ needs to be kept to 90V. How about using a 3S4 instead? It has about the same configuration s the 3V4 but a different pin-out.

I need to do more testing on the UX199 and UX120 subs. I will post further as results become available

If you find these posts useful, don't forget to check the "like" below. Thanks

Russ

I stated somewhere, probably more than once, that my interests include early radios up to 1942 and later Hi-Fi from around 1955 to 1979.

Why, you may ask, do I exclude the decade between 1945 and 1955? Cabinets, those rectangular, featureless cubes with doors that degraded further with the "blond", yellow and whitewashed finishes that continued into the 60s.

The problem, for me, is two fold.  First, these designs tend to hog floor space. Second, unless you design a room around them, these consoles don't fit well with most décor. Or even more simply put, they are just not to my taste. I know that my feelings are not universal, but demand and prices over the years do indicate considerable sympathy. I will have to concede that after considerable resistance, a 3 channel Motorola has been added to the display - and I kind of' like it.

 Unfortunately there were some great radios hidden inside of those cabinets. Scott and Meissner were just two of the high end manufacturers that followed this trend. They had to. It was the style of the time.

Fisher consoles are often stripped of their tuners to be installed in cabinets like those that became popular in the 60s and 70s. I suppose that this is preferable to losing the whole console to the land fill, but, one day (maybe today) the original cabinet will be missed.

So when recently I was given a number of these late 40s, upper-end radios, I simply stashed them in the parts room and moved on to the good stuff.  I suppose that fate and my desire to preserve history collided when it became necessary to clear out the parts room - or put a warning sign on the door - Enter at Your Own Risk!

Among these radios was the Scott 510 discussed below and a Scott 800 that I have not addressed yet. But the ones that interested me most were the Meissners. There was quite a collection - none were complete and none had a cabinet.

First there was the 2961 amp - REAL radio candy from 1947! I just could not ignore this PS/amp with push-pull parallel 6L6GA output tubes. Turns out the 6L6s are wired for triode operation which reduces the power output considerably (as compared to pentode operation). This amp/dual power supply was the heart of a 2961 tube radio - I wish that I had the rest of it.

Since I had neither the original 2961 receiver nor the amps for the 9-1093-7 and 9-1093, I built an adaptor to use them in combination as well as with a 9-1091C receiver (later).

At this point I will confess that the original configuration of the 9-1093 had only (ONLY!) 24 tubes, but what the heck. Here is a video. The original coaxial speaker and OP transformer are also missing so I had to adapt -

Meissner 9-1093-7 and 2961   (26 tubes)

The 1093-7 chassis was in the best shape of all of them with the black finish and red lettered labels remarkably intact. Yet it also needed the most work.

Along with the standard restuffing of paper and electrolytic capacitors, this unit also had about half of the carbon resistors way out of tolerance. I was able to replace all of the resistors with NOS carbon comp resistor from my parts inventory. This kept the bottom side of the chassis looking original as well as the top side.

During the parts replacement all eyelets are cleaned and the original mechanical contact is restored prior to soldering. This keep the eyelets and contact strips from "bulking up" with old solder and the old component wire ends also maintaining the original look and reducing the chance of intermittent contacts.

You might note the -7 on this model number. This one is the only reference to that suffix that I have found. The other version is just 9-1093. I have one of each and there are at least 3 very significant differences.

The -7 version has an on-board preamp tube for phono mounted at the end of the FM circuit and inside of the area that shields the last IF, 2 limiters and the discriminator. The other version has a hole/cover in the chassis but uses a separate pre-amp module with 6V and B+ coming from the main chassis. Interesting that the pre-amp must be plugged in in both cases to an RCA input connector.

The -7 version also has the nice black paint and the controls are mounted directly to the front of the chassis rather than being spaced back several inches in the other version.

Meissner 9-1091C

This is another AM FM (mono) chassis from about the same period. It has somewhat more versatility as compared to the 9-1093 since it has it's own power supply and push-pull 6J5s capable of driving almost any amplifier. But, it still does require a separate amplifier chassis. This radio has 17 tubes including a 6U5 eye tube to display signal strength. Like the 9-1093, AM and FM reception and audio quality are very good.

This 2961 amp uses push-pull-parallel 6L6GA wired as Triodes. It has 2 rectifiers. The 5Y3G supplies B+ for the tuner chassis and a 5V4G provides B+ for this chassis.  There is a separate filament transformer.

One of the features of this amp that is notable is the socketed filter capacitors, one for each of the B+ supplies. These caps use a 4 pin socket like the one used for an 80 or 2A3 tube. They are secured by a clamp. This sure would have made servicing the filters easier. They could have been changed out every couple of years to avoid failures.

This collection of Meissner radios also includes a Signal-Shifter EX ( low power CW transmitter ) and a much smaller kit radio. I will post any updates on those as I get to them.

It seems that many radios were sold as kits or replacement chassis for a cabinet that a customer already owned. This is consistent with the company's other offerings of  quality OEM and replacement parts. Some were sold under the name Maguire. You might want to do more research under the name Thordarson-Meissner / Mt. Carmel, Illinois. Thordarson is still in business. (Thanks Ron)

To conclude, this series of radios, especially the large chassis with FM, were very high quality only lacking the chrome to be compared with the very high end radios of the time. If you happen upon one of these radios and have never heard of, or seen one, you are not alone. If the price is right, you might want to add it to your collection.

Nipper-

Time to clean out the parts room. And, what to do with the Victor Micro-synchronous receiver chassis? It was very rough and over the 5 or 6 years it had been there, not very useful. I guess that I had just kept it for the top cover. I had always thought that it would have been nice if the heavy, stamped covers were more visible inside of the RE-XX cabinets,

Well, the chassis is gone but Nipper has been polished and mounted  (that sounds wrong ). I'll set him on top of the "Talking Machine" display.